Who are the United Vendors of Canada? Loonie Vend? Vendgourmet?
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Here is an interesting observation about United Vendors, and a number of companies it has used marketing it's vending business opportunity.
I purchased U-turn machines from United Vendors of Canada, that used to be located at www.loonievend.ca and www.loonievend.com.
Interestingly, both of these sites have been discontinued and forward to www.vendgourmet.com.
I think that perhaps this is suggestive of the marketting that they do - offering instant good returns.
What they fail to mention is the start up cost (of course, that's where they make their money!) of their overpriced machines, and then the $100/machine of vending product.
I were to do it again, I wouldn't have bought new from them - I am doing better purchasing used from those who buy new, and realize it isn't worth their time....
(Via Gourmet Candy Vending » Grow with us.)
Al Manning, the CEO of United Vendors Canada, disagrees with this assessment, and states:
"We sell at factory direct prices and our customers can buy as little as 'ONE' machine at a time."
But, there is another issue raised here: the difficulties that regulatory agencies have in trying to enforce their own business opportunity or franchise laws.
Since, United Vendors is a Florida company, the State of Florida, a fairly tough business opportunity regulator, advises:
Many Americans dream of owning their business.
Although many achieve this dream, others run into financial ruin by falling prey to scams devised by unscrupulous promoters of business opportunities.
A business opportunity is an offer to assist a person in starting his or her own business by providing - either through sales or lease - products, equipment, supplies or service needed to carry on the business.
Business opportunities range from addressing envelopes or assembling toys at home at a cost of a few dollars, to establishing vending machine routes or installing pay telephones for thousands of dollars.
Many times, these promoters imply that investors can see a substantial return with minimal effort.
Unfortunately, the Florida Business Opportunity Act only applies to companies doing business in the state of Florida.
Where is United Vendor's advertising its newest vending distributorship? That's right: only in Canada.
It is unfortunate because if United Vendors was selling its business opportunity in the State of Florida, then prior to advertising to the public, they would have to register:
" Every seller of a business opportunity shall annually file with the department a copy of the disclosure statement required by s. 559.803 prior to placing an advertisement or making any other representation designed to offer to, sell to, or solicit an offer to buy a business opportunity from a prospective purchaser in this state and shall update this filing by reporting any material change in the required information within 30 days after the material change occurs."
This is very important registration requirement is missing from the Ontario Arthur Wishart Franchise Disclosure Act. Such registration would have allowed the previous complainant a sneak peek at the disclosure document prior to doing business with United Vendors of Canada.
But, Al Manning, the President of United Vendors Canada, disagrees and says that his company does not fall under the Franchise Disclosure Act, because:
"Clearly it states on our website, that the U-Turn factory provides training, not United Vendors Group.
In addition, the training is not mandatory, it is voluntary. U-Turn povides this as a courtesy to U-Turn machine owners free of charge.
We have many satisfied U-Turn owners. These are hard working people that are bold and willing to step out of their comfort zone to give it all they have.
There is no easy way to be successful in business, but as you indicate, it is easy to blame others or anyone else for their own failures.
By suggesting we practice unscrupulous methods is defamatory to our company. U-Turn has been in business for 21 years. And the reason is that we are the leaders in bulk vending manufacturing.
We own 6 design patents. We do not adhere to get rich quick schemes or pie in the sky scams as you are inferring."
Another important development would be an online search of registered business opportunities, like the one the the State of Washington has.
Until these relatively simple and inexpensive steps are taken, unfortunately it will be easy for an unscrupulous business opportunity seller to pick one jurisdiction to locate in but advertise in a jurisdiction with fewer consumer protections.

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Here is a suggestion. Send me your Ontario Franchise Disclosure document.
Otherwise, I will continue to ask questions about what it says.
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Posted by: charlesbrooks | January 1, 2010 1:45 AM
I'm so glad I found this site...Keep up the good work
Posted by: Bill Bartmann | September 1, 2009 5:41 PM
Mike, Many of our U-Turn customers locate their own machines. Also, our customers have the freedom of choosing ANY location company they wish. As you know, there are many, many location companies who advertise their services. We strictly sell machines for U-Turn. That's it my man. We don't know why you feel compelled to post this slanderous info about our company on your website. Oh well, like we said before, ANYONE can blog. Have a nice day...PS.. by the
way, we are not United Vendors of Canada (another error). PPS In which section does it say in the Wishart Act that "training" is considered a franchise. I will review it.
Posted by: UNITED VENDORS GROUP | June 4, 2009 7:26 PM
I would be thrilled to investigate "Cash Cow", just send me the link! I will have the puppy on the front page in a heart beat.
As you know, I keep all ads open on BizOP, just because idiots like Cash Cow will run ads - and vigilant readers will point them out to me! Just keep point them out, click on the ads, and send me their landing page. Also, do a screen shot of my site so that I can put that up.
Thanks.!
By the way, it is not whether you provide locations, it is whether you offer substantial assistance or recommend a company to use for training.
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June 3, 2009 7:31 PM
Hello Everyone; To all our customers and future customers who want the TRUTH. United Vendors Group has "NEVER-EVER" used any other COMPANY names to market their U-Turn vending machines. This is FALSE information being presented by Mike Webster (and, there is nothing we can do about because as you know, ANYONE CAN WRITE WHATEVER THEY WANT WHILE BLOGGING on-line). 'Website names and creative ideas' are "NOT" company names, so his opening statement is deliberately defaming our company. We have been United Vendors Group since 2002. We sell new and rerurbished U-Turn bulk vending at factory direct prices (We do not sell snack and pop machines as suggested in the above picture. Why that picture is there is a mystery). The factory is located in Idaho Falls, Idaho, and have been manufacturing patented bulk-canding machines since 1986. United Vendors Group does not offer "INSTANT GOOD RETURNS" also, a purposely defaming comment by Mike Webster. We do not sell franchises. We do not provide locations. If we did, we would be required to provide a Franchise Disclosure (The Arthur Wishart Act"). Here is an intersting observation about most of the vending companies that are allowed to ADVERTISE on 'Misleading ADVERTSISING LAW' at the top 'THIS PAGE'. Here's a good one; "A CASH COW"! 10 soda/snack vending MACHINES-LOCATIONS SECURED FOR YOU". This firm MUST being selling franchines because they are 'PROVIDING LOCATIONS". Section (1)(b)(ii)(Wishart Act) CASH COW. LOCATIONS SECURED? Before you start defaming our company, why don't you investigate these other companies that are advertsing like this?
If they issue disclosure statements then I apologize. But if not, WHY are they allowed to advertise on Mike Webster's
HOME PAGE? Now that's a hypocritical scenario. Wouldn't you agree folks?
Posted by: United Vendors Group | June 3, 2009 7:21 PM
Al;
Are you the CEO of United Vendors Group, a Florida Company?
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May 29, 2009 5:08 PM
Mike, People are welcome to call us anytime. Again, we have been United Vendors Group from the beginning and have not received any damaging remarks from the BBB as you imply. Have a nice day. We will be in touch with you soon.
Posted by: UNITED VENDORS GROUP | May 29, 2009 4:57 PM
Mike, Again for the last time, we are NOT selling franchises. We sell machines only at factory prices for U-Turn. Second, you are claiming in your opening sentence; ¨United Vendors and a number of companies it has used marketing it´s business opportunity¨. This is 100% completely false. We have had only one company name and toll free number since 2002. 1-800-852-8890. Our web designer designed several websites for us. Again, you are misleading the public into thinking we are doing something illegal. Also, what´s with the snack and pop machine? We don´t sell these machines. I don´t know what your vendetta is about our company, but it has to stop. This is dafaming and childish. There is no validity to your negative comments. Please remove your comments immediately.
Posted by: UNITED VENDORS GROUP | May 29, 2009 12:10 PM
Al;
The better response to negative comments is to address them head on. People can then judge who to believe.
Frankly, an open discussion is a good solution for confronting people who are unhappy. Much better than having someone from the BBB, or a competitor, telling you how much it will "cost" to remove negative remarks about your company.
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May 28, 2009 10:43 AM
Mike, I apologize for the extortion remark, but there have been attempts from others and I am not claiming you would stoop to that level. Again, there is no reason to post all these negative and defamatory comments about our company and U-Turn. It's unfornuate that in today's day and age, ANYONE who has a computer can blog and say whatever they want to defame others. Blogging is simply a cowardly method for people who have nothing better to do ... And, when the information is false, they are the ones who sound pathetic. Have a nice day.
Posted by: United vendors Group | May 28, 2009 6:39 AM
Al;
I disagree with your claim about being in compliance with the Wishart Act. Get your counsel to send me his/her analysis and I will post it and discuss it. Your firm might even gain from such an interaction.
Your comments have been printed verbatim, and if you want to suggest changes to the main entry, I open to suggestions.
If you want to explain further what you do, please go ahead and it will be posted.
Finally, I am not bashing your company. But, after reviewing your website, the representations only confirm my belief that United Vendors Canada is selling franchises, despite what you may think.
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May 28, 2009 12:10 AM
Mike,
Our compliance is 100% accurate. Therefore, you are distorting the truth once again. Whatever your reasons for your malicious treatment toward our company is a mystery to us. You have claimed to put our remarks in your main entry, but they have been edited and are not verbatim. It is my view that you have a serious misconception of what we do. All we do is rep for U-Turn, the manufacturing company. That's it my man. This is getting old. What do you gain by bashing our company. Are you looking to extort money from us also?
Posted by: United Vendors Group | May 27, 2009 11:37 PM
Al;
I think you need to have your counsel discuss with you the implications of the Wishart Act. It is my view that you have a serious problem with compliance. But, I will also put in your remarks in the main entry.
As for the remarks that your machines are overpriced, those are not my remarks, but I will put in your claims in the main entry.
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May 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Mike, There is simply no confusion about who offers the training. Everyone has opinions, but your opinion is 100% incorrect, and that in itself is defamatory and slanderous whereby you say we "may" come under the Wishart Act. Clearly it states on our website, that the U-Turn factory provides training, not United Vendors Group. In addition, the training is not mandatory, it is voluntary.
U-Turn povides this as a courtesy to U-Turn machine owners free of charge. Yes, you certainky have your own opinion, and it is false. Your site mentions that we offer good returns and our machines are overpriced which is another defamatory statement. We sell at factory direct prices and our customers can buy as little as 'ONE' machine at a time. You state; 'Until these steps are taken, it will be easy for unscrupulous business opportunty sellers to pick one jurisdiction to locate in and and another to advertise in". This implies we are unscrupulous. Another defaming accusation. This can wronfully deter potential customers from purchasing from us. In the interest of fairness and ethics, I am again, asking you to remove these incorrect and defamatory comments from your website. If you continue to post derogatory and defamatory statements against our company, we will contact the Attorney Ethics Board. These are 100% false and "your opinionated" statements are damaging to both United Vendors Group and U-Turn Internationl, one the leading bulk-vending manufacturing companies since 1986. I am sure there are companies deserved of a 'witch hunt'. Our company is certainaly not one of them...
Posted by: United Vendors Group, Inc. | May 27, 2009 11:21 AM
Al;
I cannot advise you about whether your website is legally offering training or not.
You will have to make that call, with your own counsel.
I have my own opinion, and I think that by being the exclusive distributor of U-Turn and offering to train people in the vending business, your company may come under the Wishart Act.
If there are particular words on this thread that you think that are defamatory, please tell me.
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May 26, 2009 9:37 PM
Hello Mike, What that means is that our company has been "CHOSEN" to distribute the U-Turn product in Canada. We do "NOT SELL" distributorships. If it sounds confusing, we can reword it. Second, UNITED VENDORS GROUP does not offer training, the factory headquarters offers free training. Any U-Turn machine owner is cordially invited to attend their free classes. If you have seen their video, it was made at their factory with some of their customers. United Vendors Group does not offer training. Everything is handled at the factory headquarters in Idaho Falls, Idaho. So, as you can see, we do not sell distributorships, or provide training. Again, please remove the BIZZ OPP newsletter that is intentionally slandering our company. Thank you again. If you feel we need to remove the video, I will need to consult with the GM at U-Turn. Thank you for your cooperation. Al Manning, President
Posted by: al manning | May 26, 2009 8:25 PM
Al, from your website:
"We would like to personally extend our U-Turn Canada welcome to you. We are very proud to announce that our company has been awarded the "Exclusive" U-Turn Distributorship throughout Canada."
And the videos on your website promise business training and support, and the offer is what triggers the requirement for a franchise disclosure document.
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May 26, 2009 7:52 AM
Hello Mike, With all due respect, IF, United Vendors Group was selling in the state of Florida, yes, a disclosure statement would be required. However, we are Factory Reps for the one of the leading vending manufacturing companies in the world for 21 years, U-Turn Vending. We only sell to Canada. Can you tell me when it became a crime to do business in Canada? Do you think we are the ONLY company outside of Canada doing business in Canada? As you say, a disclosure is a MISSING requirement from the Ontario Arthur Wishart (Franchise Disclosure)Act.
The Ontario Arthur Wishart Act requires a disclosure statement if a company is selling;(1)a franchise that requires "continuing payments".(2)exercises significant control over the franchisees' method of operation.(3)provides locations(we do not provide locations whatsoever).(4)exercises significant control over the franchisee and to whom the franchise has a continuing financial obligation.(5)offers master franchises. United Vendors Group does not not provide any of these. We offer U-Turn vending machines at factory direct prices only.
In fact, our customers can buy just ONE machine, just to get a feel for the business. You are making incorrect and defamatory statements that are and can certainly wrongfully deter potential clients based on this false information. Therefore, I am respectfully asking you to remove these degoratory statements from your BIZOP NEWS from the internet. We have many satisfied U-Turn owners. These are hard working people that are bold and willing to step out of their comfort zone to give it all they have. There is no easy way to be successful in business, but as you indicate, it is easy to blame others or anyone else for their own failures. By suggesting we practice unscrupulous methods is defamatory to our company. U-Turn has been in business for 21 years. And the reason is that we are the leaders in bulk vending manufacturing. We own 6 design patents. We do not adhere to get rich quick schemes or pie in the sky scams as you are inferring. FYI, Almost all the top organic search listings are articles talking about lawsuits against Ed Magedson, the company owner and editor of 'RIPOFF report'. Because the corrupt practices of the site is so widespread, it is now very easy for any consumer to find information that would at the very least, cast doubt on the validity of the site and at best would show it as the extortion front that it is. In other words, this is a criminal site that looks to extort money from businesses. If you go to the BBB in Arizona, this is what they are saying.
Posted by: Al Manning | May 23, 2009 3:01 PM
Al;
Here is a suggestion. Send me your Ontario Franchise Disclosure document.
Otherwise, I will continue to ask questions about what it says.
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December 14, 2008 11:20 PM
Here is an interesting observation for people who have nothing better to do than to bash our company. We have been the exclusive Canadian distributor for U-Turn Bulk-Candy venders since 2003. The factory has been in business since 1986 and ships worldwide. We do not offer or promise in any way whatsover, INSTANT GOOD RETURNS as you claim, nor do we sell our equipment at inflated prices. Our customers know we are a U.S. company. As the exclusive rep in Canada, we do business in Canadian funds. We recieve our faxes and mail in Etobicoke and London, Ontario. Also, FYI, since introducing gourmet candy products in 2006, we have been trying several website names and have decided on vendgourmet.com is the nicest and fit for us. We at United Vendors Group have had the same company name and toll free number since 2003. Claiming that we are unscrupulous is just ridiculous and downright false and weak. U-Turn is great company with great products. It's easy to bash companies on-line isn't it? In fact, there have been several people who have tried to extort money by false claims and lies about U-Turn.
Posted by: Al Manning | December 13, 2008 9:05 PM
any advice in how to find good vendors in Canada? are there groups?
Posted by: Brad | February 20, 2008 1:40 PM